In which Rez is a foil for a long-winded rant/bitch about how Bill Leeb left anything resembling Awesome back in the 20th century.

07:00 <@solios> for some reason Provision (12" mix) by Front Line Assembly always makes me think of the late 80s.
07:33 < rez> Do they say "Industry is radical!" in it?
07:36 <@solios> rez: no
07:37 < rez> I can't say I've actually heard that track for sure, which album was the original mix on?
07:41 <@solios> good question.
07:41 <@solios> it's Caustic Grip era, iirc
07:42 * solios wants the 12".
07:42 <@solios> the b-side is the Surge mix of Overkill.
07:42 <@solios> <3.
07:42 <@solios> ah.
07:42 <@solios> yes.
07:43 <@solios> rez: it's on Caustic Grip.
08:02 < rez> I haven't heard it then.
08:03 < rez> I really need to expand my FLA library.
08:04 <@solios> not really.
08:04 <@solios> most everything pre-Caustic is total shit.
08:04 <@solios> Total Terror is Complete Crap.
08:05 <@solios> (sounds like Noise Unit took a shit on a casio...)
08:05 <@solios> and I'm really fucking sick of the "OMFG DELERIUM ONLY WITH WHISPERY BOY VOCALS LIKE HAUJOBB!!!!!" kick they've been on the last few years. >_<
08:06 <@solios> actually.
08:06 <@solios> fuck.
08:07 <@solios> Civilization might as well be a Haujobb album.
08:08 <@solios> the Metropolis clips are really misleading- they take the hardest loop of the hardest track to present the album like it's something worth listening to. Outside of Maniacal, it's more whispery whiny delerium-programming-of-noise-unit-samples.
08:08 <@solios> :|
08:08 < rez> They have been doing that a lot lately.
08:09 <@solios> sucking?
08:09 < rez> I haven't even bothered getting the most recent album.
08:09 <@solios> Don't waste your money.
08:09 <@_Lasar> Solution: Do not listen to it. The hurt will stop.
08:09 <@solios> Heh.
08:09 <@solios> _Lasar: here's the problem.
08:09 < rez> Yeah, and presenting the best/hardest track on the album and fooling me into thinking that this time will be different.
08:09 <@solios> FLA did Millenium.
08:09 <@solios> which is the most metal fucking thing to ever happen to industrial.
08:09 <@solios> it's fucking awesome.
08:10 <@solios> Every FLA fan fucking hates the shit out of it.
08:10 <@solios> I think it's the greatest goddamned thing Bill Leeb ever shat out of his head.
08:10 <@solios> Consequently, I wouldn't wipe my ass with almost everything they've done since.
08:11 <@solios> Problem is, Delerium started making a shitload of money and as a consequence, Leeb started injecting what he thinks makes that sound pull in the bank into FLA. # this is speculation and possible asshatery, but it sure fucking SOUNDS like this is the case.
08:11 <@solios> The result is, basically, haujobb with a noise unit / Leeb filter applied. Crap.
08:11 <@solios> rez: yeah.
08:11 <@solios> Civlization is just like the rest of the records in the fucking industry. A single and nine tracks of filler.
08:12 <@solios> iTunes wise, Millennium tracks are averaging in the 80s for playcount.
08:12 <@solios> Civlization tracks are averaging 1.
08:12 <@_Lasar> solios: I failto see the problem. Give it a listen. If it sucks, stop listening :)
08:14 <@solios> the problem is that FLA did the Hardest Fucking Thing Ever.
08:14 <@solios> which proved they can be Awesome.
08:14 <@solios> after proving they could !suck, they went on to suck shit through a straw.
08:14 <@solios> trying to prove they're diverse or whatever.
08:14 <@_Lasar> Yes, yes.
08:14 <@_Lasar> I understand that.
08:14 <@_Lasar> It's a sad thing.
08:14 <@solios> I care because I really, really wish Millennium wasn't a fucking FLUKE.
08:14 <@solios> :|

08:33 < rez> It's the same reason I keep buying KMFDM records, it's not that they're any good anymore, it's that they used to Rock MotherFucking Ass, and I'm hoping that someday they'll realize that and go back that sound.
08:33 < rez> I thought once they booted Tim "I shoot up estrogen" Skold, things would get better...
08:40 < rez> So I trudge out and buy the new "KMFDM ATTAKS THE WORLD IN A WAR OF STUFF" album every year, like the good little masochist that I am.